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				  Andrew M wrote over 14 years ago,  Modified over 14 years ago			 
			
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              Keenan Weaver wrote about 1 year ago  
            It had to be done. Let's get it out of the way quickly. 
             
            So, what do you think is the best game EVER? Not greatest, not favorite. BEST. 
             
            What constitutes "best"? I think it's a combination of  innovation, influence/impact, critical acclaim and... just pure fun.  
             
            Personally, I think Deus Ex by Ion Storm is the most genius  piece of  creativity ever devised by mankind. I sincerely think a game  has never  been done more perfect and flawlessly (excluding the AI...  I guess),  than Deus Ex.  
             
            Plus, the music was freaking awesome. 
             
            Now, what's yours? 
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              John Meyer wrote about 1 year ago  
            Super Mario Galaxy. 
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              Lewis Denby wrote about 1 year ago  
            A bit unproductive, really.   Deciding  upon a criterion for "best" doesn't make a lot of sense to  me.  It  varies depending on a whole bunch of factors. 
             
            The best game for kids?  Probably a LEGO title.  The best  game for RPG  fans who like conspiracy theories? Deus Ex?  The best game  for the  murderously insane? You get the picture. 
             
            While Deus Ex is a spellbinding title, probably still in my  top five  favourites, I'd say you could do to look around a bit more for  the most  ingenious piece of creativity designed by mankind :-| 
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              Keenan Weaver wrote about 1 year ago  
            Uhh... thanks. 
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              Ralph Beentjes wrote about 1 year ago  
            Zelda: Orcarina of Time for sure! It was innovative, beautiful, big and it did almost everything perfect! 
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              Jelle Kok wrote about 1 year ago  
            If we talk about influence  games like  Tetris, Pong and GTA III come up in my mind. GTA III was the  first 3D  GTA, Tetris is a very old game and still everyone plays it  and talks  about it and the same goes for Pong. 
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              Joseph Lustig wrote about 1 year ago,  Modified about 1 year ago 
            
            A bit unproductive, really. Deciding upon a criterion for  "best" doesn't  make a lot of sense to me. It varies depending on a  whole bunch of  factors. 
             
            The best game for kids? Probably a LEGO title. The best game  for RPG  fans who like conspiracy theories? Deus Ex? The best game for  the  murderously insane? You get the picture. 
             
            While Deus Ex is a spellbinding title, probably still in my  top five  favourites, I'd say you could do to look around a bit more for  the most  ingenious piece of creativity designed by mankind :-|
              
             
            Exactly. There is no "best game ever," but if there was, it'd definitely be Final Fantasy VII.   | 
            
            
            
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              Misha Scholte wrote about 1 year ago  
            Man, this one is too hard. I  already  had brain freeze from my B&J's Fossil Fuel. Everytime  someone askes  me what the best game is, I can't answer it. I do know  it's NOT Kane  & Lynch! 
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              Andrew M wrote about 1 year ago  
            Best game ever for me, has to be Panzer Dragoon Saga. 
            Just for the sheer experience it put me through. 
            At the time it was mind blowing, and I just wanted everyone to experience playing it. 
             
            The funny thing is though, if I had a bunch of friends  round, I wouldn't  get out a serious cinematic RPG like Panzer Dragoon  Saga though. A  multiplayer game of Bomberman would go down much better.  And whilst PDS  was a mindblowing experience, making it the first game  to spring to mind  when asked what the best game ever is, I don't think  it was the most  *fun* I've ever had with a game. So I think some games  are more fun. But  as an experience...!? As an experience...playing  through Panzer Dragoon  Saga has probably been one of the most  incredible I've had through  gaming. 
             
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            ....[to be continued...].... 
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              Andrew M wrote about 1 year ago  
            P.S. Never played Deus Ex,  but a  reviewer, Will Jenkins, gave it the highest award we had in  United Games  at the time, and we had a team debate about why it  deserved such an  accolade, so am hearing the original poster's point  there. 
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              Joseph Lustig wrote about 1 year ago  
            I love how everyone chose a different game haha. 
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              Eric Schild wrote about 1 year ago  
            
            
            
            P.S. Never played Deus Ex, but a reviewer, Will Jenkins, gave it the  highest award we had in United Games at the time, and we had a team  debate about why it deserved such an accolade, so am hearing the  original poster's point there.  
            
            You should really get on playing it.
              
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              Emily Knox wrote about 1 year ago,  Modified about 1 year ago 
            No-one is going to agree on a best game ever. Unless you go by popular vote where I imagine FF7 will win. 
             
            I love lots of games for different reasons, Metal Gear for the  immersion, Tomb Radier for... Tomb raiding, Zoo Keeper for my spare 5-10  minutes, Age of Conan for teaming up with people and killing things,  Gran Turismo for driving cars. I couldn't decide on a best game ever. 
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              Chris Cesarano wrote about 1 year ago  
            The biggest problem with trying to  decide on a best game is because the field has transformed so much in  the past twenty years alone. The NES itself change a lot of the approach  of creating a game. The developers went from being one or two guys to a  dozen, and later to fifty, to one-hundred and onward. We're now at a  point where it takes longer for the credits of a game to complete than  the credits of a film. Design has changed, the abilities have changed,  the audiences have changed, everything has constantly changed. To try  and rank a best is near impossible. 
             
            You'd have to wait until video games become more consistent. If you look  at films since the time of Orson Welles and Alfred Hitchcock, not much  has changed aside from special effects. Otherwise, there is a lot of  work certain directors put into each shot, and then other directors that  only put what is needed for the script to go. A film from the 40's can  stand toe-to-toe with a film from today, special effects or none. 
             
            That said, Final Fantasy Tactics would be my bet in the end. The  gameplay is so good that I can't really enjoy most tactical RPG's that  similarly mimic the original Tactics Ogre. There is customization to  each character, multiple-ways to go about each battle, and so many small  stats and details to keep in mind that planning a move in that game is  like Chess on crack cocaine. Whenever my friends and I talk about  FFTactics it's like we're old veterans discussing old war stories, with  similar but vastly different experiences at the same battlefields. In  addition, the story is incredibly deep and compares to a lot of  classical literature. You could have a college course on that game's  story it's just so deep and good. It goes far beyond what most games can  even manage. 
             
            Keep in mind that I'm not much of a fan of Square-Enix anymore, so this  isn't coming from the mouth of a fanboy. I don't hate them, either. But  no matter what you believe of their quality then and now, FFTactics is  really the best work they've ever done, and definitely one of the top  games of all time. 
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              Ian Brown wrote about 1 year ago  
            Ocarina of Time for sure.  
             
            That said, The Legend of the Mystical Ninja Starring Goemon on the N64  was a brilliant game, not the best, but easily one of my favourites. 
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              Sylvano Witte wrote about 1 year ago  
            Metal Gear Solid without a doubt. 
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              Ralph Beentjes wrote about 1 year ago  
            
            
            
            Ocarina of Time for sure. 
             
            That said, The Legend of the Mystical Ninja Starring Goemon on the N64  was a brilliant game, not the best, but easily one of my favourites.  
            
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              Lewis Denby wrote about 1 year ago,  Modified about 1 year ago 
            Just so I'm contributing more than venom to this discussion, some games I feel worthy of a mention in this sort of thing. 
             
            DEUS EX - For being totally, ludicrously ahead of everything else in  terms of ambition; for creating a self-consistent universe and ruleset  that allowed people to involve themselves and feel immersed, without  resorting to total realism; for understanding how games work, how that's  unique to this medium, and capitalising on that. Also for being  ultra-cool. 
             
            OCARINA OF TIME - For being still probably the most finely crafted, balanced, well-paced "traditional" videogame in the world. 
             
            VAMPIRE: BLOODLINES - For having the finest script, characters and  general storytelling in any game, ever, bar none.  Yes, even Planescape,  before someone chips in with that.  Also for creating a world where  your role-playing actually has a tangible effect, instead of just  number-juggling. 
             
            PATHOLOGIC - For being so broken, fucked up, totally wrong, stupid,  boring and ugly, yet still managing to fascinate me at every turn for  months. 
             
            BIOSHOCK - For its bloody good go at social commentary; and for Rapture, the finest videogame world I've ever explored. 
             
            GRAND THEFT AUTO III - The game that mattered to the mainstream, in so  many ways.  The first time I felt my hobby was being taken seriously by  the public, even if it was generally negative feedback.  Also, for just  being utterly stunning in every conceivable way. 
             
            HALF-LIFE - For cementing the first-person shooter as a storytelling  medium; for showing how to create a tight, linear set of levels that  felt like a real place.  Actually, Black Mesa is better than Rapture.  But only BioShock's come close. 
             
            ICO - For nearly making me cry. 
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              Raymond Mendoza wrote about 1 year ago  
            I'm gonna have to say Legend of Zelda Ocarina of Time as well. It was just so innovative. 
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              Claudio Rossi wrote about 1 year ago  
            Neverwinter Nights. I find no flaws within it. >:( 
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              Martin Procházka wrote about 1 year ago  
            If I had to take one game to desert island I would pick Advance Wars: Dark Conflict 
             
            Choice is maybe a little bit influenced by the fact I play it nowadays during commuting and it's very replayable... 
             
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              Neil Aldis wrote about 1 year ago  
            Best game ever? Darts. But you need  one of the special, wall-mounted, consoles. And a set of dart's answer  to the wii-mote 'arras'... 
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              Eric Bailey wrote 9 months ago  
            If I really need to choose a single  game as best-ever, let me know... but http://bit.ly/a9VIen will do as my  explanation of best games ever in the meantime. 
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              Lucija Pilić wrote 9 months ago  
            Broken Sword: The Shadow of the Templars. 
             
            Like it' s predecessor, it made me think about video game media as  something more than pure fun. And was better than The Smoking Mirror. 
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              Dominik Wetter wrote 9 months ago  
            Adventure game Teen Agent - first adventure game what I played and thats reason why I love classic adventure games :) 
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              Ben Knowles wrote 9 months ago  
            Monkey Island 1 & 2 
            Sensible World of Soccer 96/97 
            Total Annihilation 
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              Jon Thorsteinsson wrote 9 months ago  
            Elite :) 
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              Gareth Mensah wrote 9 months ago  
            I've launched a brand new aggregator  to find the most innovative games and the greatest innovations in video  gaming here at http://videogamecanon.com ... Not sure what the best  video game is but I'd throw SimCity and GTA in the mix. 
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              James Mak wrote 9 months ago  
            Hands down I would place my vote for  Ocarina of Time, but right now FF13 has captivated me and I can't seem  to put the controller down until I have beaten it, if the ending  satisfies me I will consider putting it on my top 5. 
             
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            The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time 
            Final Fantasy 10 
            Super Mario World 
            GT3 (Didn't buy 4, waiting for 5) 
            Kingdom Hearts (No I am not a pussy, it was the Square Enix aspect that put it here!) 
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              Patrick Stutzenburg Jr. wrote about 9 days ago  
            Metal Gear Solid 
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            A multiplayer game of Bomberman would go down much better.  
            While I'm not saying its the best game, I wholeheartedly second this as  fantastic fun, ESPECIALLY amongst friends.  Add in a little inebriation,  remove a little inhibition, and this easily becomes the best party game  ever.  Just the depth and breadth of the competitive shit-talking that  ensues is enough to cause rip-roaring laughter.  And lemme tell ya from  personal experience, it gets way more fun once you mix in some  competitive wagering as well.
             
            As for the best game ever, thats easy . . . Duke Nukem Forever!    
             
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            A multiplayer game of Bomberman would go down much better.  
            While I'm not saying its the best game, I wholeheartedly second this as  fantastic fun, ESPECIALLY amongst friends.  Add in a little inebriation,  remove a little inhibition, and this easily becomes the best party game  ever.  Just the depth and breadth of the competitive shit-talking that  ensues is enough to cause rip-roaring laughter.  And lemme tell ya from  personal experience, it gets way more fun once you mix in some  competitive wagering as well.
             
            As for the best game ever, thats easy . . . Duke Nukem Forever!     
            Duke Nukem Forever? Really?
            
              
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             Woo! ^_^ Bomberman love, =).  
             
            =P I've 10 Saturn controllers sitting idly in a box downstairs, with a  couple of multitaps. ^_^ Need to take this to an event or something, and  get 10 player bomberman happening, ^_^. 
             
            Lol @ Duke Nukem. ^_^ 
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            Duke Nukem Forever? Really?  
            Yeah, and if you don't like that then I might have to deny you review units in the future!  Lolz   
            
            
            
            Woo! ^_^ Bomberman love, =). 
             
            =P I've 10 Saturn controllers sitting idly in a box downstairs, with a   couple of multitaps. ^_^ Need to take this to an event or something, and   get 10 player bomberman happening, ^_^.
             
            Lol @ Duke Nukem. ^_^  
            You hear that people?  PARTAY at Andrew's flat!!!
             
            BTW, not saying that the DNF is the worst game ever.  That honor belongs  to an old PC title called Postal 2.  But DNF could easily give Postal 2  a good run for it's money, and that's quite an "achievement" there.  
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				  Andrew M wrote over 14 years ago			  
			
			What I *meant* to do, was declare my undying love for Superman 64. I guess that never really was going to work, was it?  
			
									
			
			
						
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				  Warren Chi wrote over 14 years ago			  
			
			LOLZ!  ::oh, tears in my eyes::  That just makes my day.  I don't think I've even seen a thread get nuked accidentally.
   
			
									
			
			
						
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				  Andrew M wrote over 14 years ago			  
			
			hahahaha...XD... (I'm crying really) =P  
			
									
			
			
						
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